Re-estalishment Of The Ahupua'a Sytem In Every Community Thru Out The Hawaiian Islands, "Could Be" The Solution To Todays Problems That We Face As Kanaka Maoli's***

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Permalink Reply by Kaohi on September 21, 2009 at 8:27am

The sweep at Maili which was big and nasty because we had too many sell outs looking out for their own individual needs. Mahealani's group came down to help, there was much arguments and disagreements, among the sell outs, realty sellors, insiders cooperating with the entities of the governor's office, at the time of the sweep, so am truly greatful for Mahealani's group. A whopping 56 million fund for government projects occurred soon after. The homeless from Maili still exist on the beaches and in Kibutes (sp) style state tents. We have a yiddish for a governor with a Molokai phallic style of operations, no Ohana.

The Lahui and culture practices of the Ahupua'a can make all the difference. However I caution everyone as Lehua says the risk is too high when done within. Lehua was the only person going tit for tat on the Akaka bill, if one recalls she was on the Olelo channel talking about the bill and it's changes. What most people don't know Beadie Dawson was called in to put the legal language to the Akaka Bill so that it could process through the Federal Justice Department-- Rockefeller. Note the original Mea Culpa apology that was written by ethinic studies prof. has a relationship with the akaka bill in the bigger framework. All players were present on Saturday night with in that frame work.

A tribunal is necessary and Rigoberta Menchu, Dalai Lama, and Bisoph Tutu should preside over our peoples testimonies. Rigoberta and Dalai Lama have a strong presence in Hawaii. Rigoberta did come to Hawaii and we had a talk story about AIM which she was very much part of. My relationship with the Dalai Lama was through Tosome at UH.

Philip Montez should also be a participant because he is a chicano and has great concerns for young adults and their education. Philip Montez was the head of Western Regional Civilrights Commission and he came to Hawaii to help the women of Hoala Kanawai to demand that Governor Ariyoshi return the lost ceeded lands back to the 5(f) inventory. Google Breach of Trust Hawaii.

My grumbly, I want real justice not cheap status quo kine that a white women liberation would want for their equality with their counter partners. Keeping in mind at the time of the bloodquantum, white women suffrage was on the rise and basically interferring with John Wise thinking at UH Manoa. And UH still hold these positions, Patsy Mink did it with Displaced Homemakers in the 1980s and Hawaiian women from Waianae rode on that coattails in their career jobs. Which is why Waianae poverty continue to exist, in my opinion. We had the UH Urban Department come to Maili park and take an assessment just before the sweep, they left and never returned. We need to leave that 'women suffrage' crap to the WHO's that worship the phallic and wrap ourselves around Haloa in an ahupua'a system.

I am not looking for equality with men, I want to rid ourselves of this misaligned dominant factor. I want to illuminate our culture practices such as our pohaku on Molokai and it's nani near by, if at all possible Ku and Hina my version of a relationship. Mahalo Mahalo Mahalo Kaohi

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Permalink Reply by Aina on September 21, 2009 at 11:13am

WE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO CALL A MEETING* WITH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES*

WE GOTTA FIRST FIGURE OUT A BASIC PLAN, BASIC GOAL.

THERE CAN BE "NO" ABSOLUTE RULER TYPE OF GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL, ONLY MANAGING FIRM MENTALITY.

SET OUR GOALS, PIN POINT OUR PROBLEMS, RUNNING OUR OWN TYPE OF GOVERNMENT MENTALITY, ETC.*

I GOING CALL THE FIRST BLUFF*

*HANA, FIRST MEETING AREA CALLED FOR THE GATHERING OF THE COUNCIL TO RE-ESTABLISH THE HAWAIIAN KINGDOM GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE DRIVE, KNOWLEDGE, MANA'O TO "CLAIM" OUR GOVERNMENT BACK.

EVERY ONE WHO INTENDS TO PARTICIPATE HAS TO COME WITH A OPEN MIND WITH A GENERAL FOCUS OF ALL FOR 1.

I WILL HOLD IT ON THESE TERMS.

ANYONE WITH THE INTENTION OF BEING KING, QUEEN OR HAS THE WAYS OF THE RE-INSTATED HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT IS NOT INVITED.

MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (808) 248-8087

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Permalink Reply by Donna Burns on September 21, 2009 at 8:14pm

e Guy,
I don't know if you heard about the recent panel discussion at UH Hawaiian Studies about the un-ceeded lands case with Jon Osorio, but it was really good. I know I promised you a DVD of something, but cannot remember what. (was it la ho'iho'i ea?) Anyway, I seem to have lost your address, so I'll call you tomorrow and send that plus the DVD I just made of the other night. Jon is the last standing plaintiff in the un-ceeded lands case, and the irony is that he is STILL standing for all of us (the Lahui) and yet the State AND OHA say he has NO STANDING due to the fact that he is not a "Native Hawaiian" as THEY have defined him as lacking 50% kanaka koko or more. It is very informative.

Something to think about. Although we had a "standing" government (a Constitutional Monarchy actually), which on January 17 was "put on hold" by the outsiders backed by the US....what do you think gives us as Kanaka Maoli the MOST STANDING?

Standing = What is it that gives us the MOST right to our own land, and therefore, what gives us the MOST standing?

Just curious how you'll answer that.

aloha no,
Donna

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Permalink Reply by Aina on September 25, 2009 at 8:11am

Ae Hwnwahine,

It's Just A Natural Instinct For Me To Do That, The Konohiki's Are Part Of The Main Structure Of The Government.

The Purpose Of Me Doing That Is Common Sense, There Needs To Be Unity With The Main People Involved With The Sovereignty Movement. Most Of Them Are NOT Showing Common Sense In Even Discussing Unity First.

How Many Governments Are There Out There Now ?

My Answer Is 1.

Thats My Purpose Of These Involvements* It's Common Sense And Natural Of My Instincts*

Naihe DNA*IknowwhoIamandwhatmyKuleanais*

I NO SEE NOBODY ELSE OUT THERE FOCUSING ON GETTING EVERYBODY TO STAND AS ONE. THERE ONLY TALKING, BUT I DONT SEE ANYBODY HUSTLING IT.
BUT I DO SEE PEOPLE CLAIMING THERE SELVES.

SO THATS MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION! I NOT LOOKING OUT FOR MYSELF*. I STAY LOOKING OUT ON HOW TO SAVE THE PEOPLE*

It's All Good*

Some Times People Need To Be Reminded.

..."Keohokalole received all the property of Naihe and Aikanaka.
[Le., the lands inherited from Kameeiamoku and Keawe-a-Heulu, Kamehameha's warrior chiefs and counsellors, which accounts for her extensive holdings at Mahele time]

It must not be forgotten, however, that the unwritten law of Hawaii Nei required.......What ?

In Regards to your response above. Hwnwahine when YOU address ME You Better Show More Respect Before You Blab Your Mouth Off.
You Talk So Much Like You Know Everything. Why Dont You Focus On Uniting Everyone ?

No Worry I Not Going No Place. No Wonder Some People Pissed Off With You.

No Think You Going Be Able To Talk To Me This Way. What Kind Of EXAMPLE ARE YOU SETTING BY TALKING TO ME LIKE THAT IN YOUR RESPONSE ?

Straight Up. I Know The Konohiki MORE Than MOST People* Reference My Name With Uncle Eric Po'ohina* I Did Your's With Him Last Night Before I Went To Sleep. He Said Your All Good*
Time For You To Do The Same With My Name* .....aloha.

REMEMBER HWNWAHIE, SPEAK UNITY. WHEN YOU RESPOND THAT WAY YOU DIVIDING.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TALK FIRST,THAN FIND OUT ABOUT THE PERSON YOU ADDRESSING AFTER*****

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Permalink Reply by Aina on September 26, 2009 at 6:06am

Aloha Hwnwahine,yeah I felt dumb grumbling with you. I was like, what the hell are you doing, thats not what your here for. (Thats what I was saying to myself)
I thought you were dissing me in one of your comments.

No need say nothing. I understand.

I Like It When It Comes Out Like This,It Makes The Friendship Stronger Like*

Aloha.*

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Permalink Reply by Aina on September 26, 2009 at 10:31am

Aloha Hwnwahine,

Ae, I keep in touch with Bumpy, spoke to him about a week or 2 ago*

Paul Fujishiro ? who is that

Okay, I go eventually talk story with them.

Is Maka, Clyde & Uncle Paulo on Maoliworld?

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Permalink Reply by Kaohi on September 21, 2009 at 8:59pm

donna
Thanks for the reminder, I've been all over the place trying to work with what's infront of me. I believe the case I was talking about earlier was a different case thanks for putting me on the right tract. I believe Jon's case was a different one and I did not try to participate in that one. I wish I did because I would have stuck to it till the end, well into my grave if I needed to. Hoala Kanawai 50% plus bloodquantum existed in 1974 fighting for the ceeded (stolen) revenues we are strong minded, but tired. You were all great, I'm so proud of the Hawaiian nationalist. Thanks again.

About the copy I gave you sorry it was in such poor quality. If need be I will do it again. Tongans are so important and should be consideration on the international level. Kaohi

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Permalink Reply by Donna Burns on September 21, 2009 at 9:05pm

Kaohi,
Mahalo for the copy of the book. I was going to make another copy and give this one back to you, but are you saying you don't need it back? If you do, I can surely make a copy. Mahalo nui for it.
I don't know if you know much Tongan history, but my ex husband is the geneologist for his family and he has a memory like I've never seen and can recite his back 30 generations or more. He is the great grandson of the last 'Ulukalala....and not the prince who just "assumed" the name.

His ggrandfather was called the "thunder of Vava'u" due to his nature and his history.

I'm so pooped from a long day's work. Mahalo again for bringing that book for me. Let me know if you need it back and then I'll make a copy.

Donna

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Permalink Reply by Kaohi on September 22, 2009 at 6:20am

No need to return it's your personal copy, however can you get him on some kind of recording device. Since this publication, scholars were coming forward and debating Fale's findings. Fale is a humble person taking a stance of who they were and still are. Also too, I have great reverence for Puloto Tuine, he too has had a difficult time, but knowing him he is only too humble and continue on regardless.

I believe this humbling truly represents the old way, and are reasons why we must stop the Akaka Bill. For the younger generation do not have these qualities (I hope I'm wrong) because they will need to connect with their ancestors for their survival skills in the near future.

I have been doing a whole lot of reading recently on the Trilateral. Just trying to keep abreast of what Linda and Obama is up to as far as the American expansionism's into the far east. Linda is a Kessinger, and need to prostrate the moral authority in Hawaii to ready his 2010 conference. The conference will be discussing South/North Korea, Russia and military in Hawaii. Any rural land in Hawaii will be soon nationalized for military use, the reason being that is the only way 'water' or common law which Mili mentioned that night can be weighted for military use.

As Mili said, the Native tenent water rights are under EU common law and that previous to that we have natural rights as in Judge Richardsons court (I believe that's what she meant). Common law is a group that is under Rockefellerian. The Federal Reserve Board of 1913 and Paul Volcker-Obama will take it's toll on our Maoli children if we let them. Take Care Kaohi

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Permalink Reply by Donna Burns on September 22, 2009 at 9:43am

Mahalo Kaohi for allowing me to keep that book. I will be making a copy for my cousin for his files.
I know all of what you say to be true...so true it hurts some people...but they need to hear it. Our keiki ARE under assault and indoctrination by an evil form of life that takes the life out of you if you allow it. We need to survive and the only way is to go back to the old ways. I agree with you. We will lose the battle AND the war otherwise.

One thing that I have come to believe to be true...by meeting with very knowlegable ohana is this.
Our vested rights are NOT because we were a kingdom (which throws out the whole Kingdom national...non kanaka argument) but because we are the first people of these lands. We are vested due to what Kauikeaouli did...and the other ali'i continued to stick to...w/ minor changes.

We are who we WERE. We have STANDING not because of blood quantum, but because we are all descendants of Papa and Wakea...and thereby are ohana as Jon Osorio said. We need to assert THAT....as it has the MOST standing.

Donna

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Permalink Reply by Kaohi on September 22, 2009 at 6:33am

Amelia wrote:
"thought you were going to just help with the konohiki project and now you're moving to establish an already existing Hawaiian government?"

Knowing how things can get crazy, I believe 'Guy' is doing just that the Knonohiki project. I too don't know how not to overlap into the Hawaiian government business. If I connect to repairing of the nets, then I connect to all else as far as the makaainana and the konohiki.

Just keep calling on the konohiki organizers to maintain somekind of frame work and I believe we will get the job done. Kaohi

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Permalink Reply by Donna Burns on September 22, 2009 at 9:43am

In full agreement here...
donna

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